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Where were you on August 20, 1977?
"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."
- Hitchikers Guide To The Universe.
Since August 20, 1977, the fastest craft ever launched from earth, The Voyager II Spacecraft has been flying outward away from earth and into the great unknown. Every single day since then, that little piece of metal and machinery has been rocketing towards the edge of the Solar System.
Voyager II will finally reach the edge of our solar system this year.
Carter, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Berlin Wall, Fall of Communism, Jonestown, 9/11, Yuppies, Home computers, Satellite TV, Cellphones, The Internet, Mir up - Mir down, Space Shuttle up - Space Shuttle down. The first Star Wars movie had only been out for 3 months. Now there are 6, and they are all on little DVD disks which werent even invented when this spacecraft was launched.
I now officially feel small and insignificant. For all but the first 16 years of my life, the fastest thing ever made by man has been speeding towards the edge of the solar system every single day, and it only just reached it.
Space is big. Really, really big...
I once had an email exchange with the head of SETI, Seth Shostak. He's a hell of a guy, he actually returned my emails. I asked him a few questions about the SETI project, which is a project designed to listen to radio waves in hope of detecting extraterrestrial intelligence.
Now, I had always thought that they were scanning the airwaves of interstellar space listening for radio stations the way I scan the car radio on long trips across Nevada late at night, hoping to use the atmospheric skip to catch a far away radio station from places like Seattle or even New York. It's one of the truly mystical experiences in life to be travelling across the highways of the west on moonlit nights, scanning round and around through the radio dial to find some sign of life on earth by trying to get a reflection of a radio signal thats bouncing off the atmosphere while you speed down a highway where you are the only car, the only light on the horizon for miles. Suddenly out of the dash, crackles a repeat of "The BBC home service" from some far off underfunded public radio station and you find yourself wondering about the randomness that makes up so much of your life.
So in my email exchange, I asked Mr. Shostak "If we were to place the SETI radio telescope dishe on, oh, let's say Pluto for example and scan towards Earth,from the signals that the Dish picks up,would we detect life on Earth"?
His answer knocked me for a loop, because his answer was "no". He explained that SETI doesnt listen for all the possible signals that could possibly be generated on all the possible frequencies. They had in fact limited their search to a specific set of frequencies. Up till then I had always imagined that the first signs of life would be someone accidentally catching a rerun of Tau Ceti's "I Love Lucy". This was not to be the case for SETI was looking for a specific signal and frequency and not the Tau Ceti squid version of "Lucy and Ethels big adventures".
I was really flattened by what Mr. Shostak told me. Neither the frequency or the signal they were looking for would be detected from the hypothetical SETI "Pluto Listening Post".
It seemed to me like a really big long shot to hope that we would ever find evidence of other civilizations in space and once he explained to me how the search actually worked and how SETI came to the conclusions that they did, it seemed like an even longer shot than it was before.
After all, Mr. Shostak and SETI couldn't detect Earth with his methods and yet here we are, blasting our radios, watching TV, circling the planet with GPS satellites. If detecting humans at a distance was hard, you should remember that he has almost no chance of detecting the existance of the intelligent species like dolphins, whales, chimpanzees and the great squid.
It's not that I believe that we are alone in the universe, its that I believe that "Space is big. Really really big..." When I saw the article today on Voyager II, I was reminded of just how big it really is.
I'm sure that we will find other life in the universe. I'm pretty certain we will find other life in this Solar System. I'm dead certain that most of what we find will not be watching television or listening to the radio when we finally do find them.
I wonder if the "Giant Squid of Tau Ceti" spend their spare time writing blogs...
Posted @ May 23, 2006 10:22 PM | Current Affairs
Hasn't Pioneer 10 already reached the edge of the solar system (or at least Pluto's eliptic)? I've always kind of perked up when I spotted an item in the news on that partiular probe. I suppose it comes from Cristopher Glenn doing segments on it for the "In the news" segemnts they ran on Saturday mornings between cartoons. They stuff on Skylab too. I even recall when he discussed the Israeli's building settlements on the west bank. Even at the ripe old age of nine, I thought it looked like the makings of a gooey mess. I'd have used the term "tar baby" had i known it at the time.
Posted by: RPD at May 24, 2006 07:05 AM
Great post! Are you able to share any of the information from Mr. Shostak's reply email?
Posted by: slickdpdx at May 24, 2006 04:03 PM
No, the "Giant Squid of Tau Ceti" ARE Blogs.
Posted by: N. O'Brain at May 24, 2006 04:13 PM
I wished I would have saved the emails, but I didnt. It was probably 5 years ago, and several email accounts ago. I was surprised to find that he was very helpful and he answered all of my questions.
Posted by: Frank Martin at May 24, 2006 06:17 PM
In answer to your question, skateboarding, swimming and reading scifi.
We are of a similar age so you had to have been touched by 2001 prior to 1977.
By the time 2001 had arrived on the calender, SETI was little more than a pain in the tail on systems I was overseeing. New Age MoonBats somehow thought it was their moral imperative to help mature mankind by contacting the wiser counsels of the universe thus violating the state policy against installing software that tied up resources (including the fire wall).
With a rocket scientist dad, I grew up eagerly anticipating the next delivery of Aviation Week and Scientific American. Mix some Verne, Campbell, Heinlein, Clark, Asimov, et al into the mix and the result was a quiet wish that contact would happen (for the better) on my watch.
Now I'm simply hoping we don't have a bit of the darker fiction first before we find out just how big space really is first hand - if at all.
Might be a darker perspective on how big things are but its all baby steps.
- Settle down the moonbats
- Whack the bad folk
- Build faster stuff
- Whack the moonbats
- Settle the bad folk
- Build really faster stuff
- Get away from the moonbats and bad folk....
Posted by: brian at May 25, 2006 09:25 PM
Where was I August 20, 1977?
I know exactly where I was.
I was in an ARIA, tail number 329 at about 31,000' and feeling great relief when we heard Voyager II finally lauched. Soon afterwards as the antenna operator I got to track Voyager II from AOS (acquisition of signal) until handoff to a sister ARIA. And we were part of history.
Prior to the lauch, we had to sit and wait in Perth after the launch of Voyager I was canx while Voyager II went through an accelerated preparation for launch.
Every other day we flew about 5 hours boring holes in the sky and confirming our equipment was up and ready for the lauch.
I appreciated those days - but not enough. Thanks for bringing the memories back.
But now for the real reason I wanted to comment on your posting ...
You said, " Space is big. Really, really big... "
I was surprised you did not state the corollary so many seem unaware of ...
Space is empty. Really, really empty...
Almost everyone is unaware of just how empty space is. They are used to the elementary through high school displays of our solar system that makes it seem almost crowded.
There are a number of websites that help illustrate how empty the solar system is by building a solar system when starting with something of size most of us are familiar with to replace the sun. Then the surprises come.
For instance at Build A Solar System if the sun is 10 inches in diameter (roughly the size of a basketball), then the earth is approximatley 9/100ths of an inch in diameter and 89 feet away.
In between the earth and the sun (our basketball) are Mercury (3.5/100ths inch diameter and 34 feet away) and Venus - my favorite morning star - (8.7/100ths inch diamter and 64 feet away).
So picture it this way: Set a basketball on the goal line of a football field then 11 yards out place the rollerball from a medium ink pen (0.7mm) follwed by 8.5 shot size pellet 21 yards out followed by 8.0 shot size pellet (our very own earth) at just under 30 yards out!
Of course you would have the largest planet, Jupiter, 1 inch in diameter 155 yards out. Then you have Pluto on the outer edge of our solar system (almost the size of a BB here) 1,280 football fields out from the original goal line.
So what inhabits our hypothetical solar system that is 2,380 football fields in diamter?
SUN - Basketball - size/10" - center
Mercury - med ballpoint - size/0.035" - 34' to center
Venus - 8.5 pellet shot - size/0.87" - 64' to center
Earth - 8.0 pellet shot - size/0.92" - 89' to center
Mars - med ballpoint - size/0.049" - 136' to center
Jupiter - spinning quarter - size/1.00" - 465' to center
Saturn - spinning U.S. nickel - size/0.84" - 854' to center
Uranus - cooked green pea - size/0.034" - 1,718' to center
Neptune - cooked green pea - size/0.033" - 2,694' to center.
Pluto - BB pellet - size/0.016" - 3,540' to center
So if we think of our solar system not as the disc we usually consider, but a sphere we have a sphere 1.33 miles across with a basketball at the center, two medium ballpoint pen balls, two peas, 3 pellets of varying size, a spinning quarter, and a spinning nickel.
Two words: Almost empty..
Again - thanks for the article.
RileyD, nwJ
"Only the humble are sane."
Posted by: RileyD, nwJ at May 31, 2006 01:24 PM
I have to wonder about Pioneer, too.
I recall reading a couple years back and being ticked off that NASA, in its typical brilliance, decided to pull the plug on its communications with the (still operating) Pioneer spacecraft. It wasn't just a matter of information (I'm sure the craft's primitive instruments didn't tell us a lot, esp. as they would be aimed at planetary info, not for "out there"), it's a matter of simple *history*.
Posted by: Vootie at June 3, 2006 02:26 AM



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