Check that link, man.

corrected.

Uh, Frank? You live in Cali, right? So, more than most, you know *personally* the state of the "excess" electric power on the grid.

So where, exactly, do you think the power for these "Volts" is gonna come from? Yeah, they run on "gas, e85, biodiesel" -- but the name pretty much says what it's supposed to be aimed at.

You want to free us from foreign oil, do two things:
1) Open up ANWR
2) Build Nukes

You'll need #2 there before you can switch to electric cars.

You might notice how the Greens oppose both those.

One thing is certain. No shortage of Venom being spit at each other in the comments secton of that site. As I said over there, Malthus will be 'field tested' (2050) before any of the other problems manifest themselves. A much warmer earth? sugar cane? grown in Iowa? The fact that mankinds Historic inability to get along with the other persons beliefs, will always be the overwhelmingly deciding factor. "Wars and Rumors of Wars".

> As I said over there, Malthus will be 'field tested' (2050)

LOL. In what way? The population will spike before then *well* below the carrying limits of the planet's agro structure -- current estimates level it off at ca. 8.5 billion and declining (children are a burden once you leave agro economies).

Any nuke war which does occur will be orders of magnitude less serious than what would have happened just 30 years ago (millions dead, yeah, but not billions), and the fuel problems will be solved, at some point, by someone actually deciding to f*** the damned idiot greens, people need energy to live on.

Fission first, then some combos of Ocean Thermal, Solar Satellites, and/or Fusion, mixture as the tech develops.

If the West doesn't do it, I guarantee you China will, and India will follow. And if oil prices surge consistently above what would produce gas at $5/gal or greater (likely, sooner or later), then oil sands and oil shales will become worthwhile to extract... and guess who owns the largest known reserves of those (greater, in fact, than ALL the oil pulled out of the ground, world-wide, ***to date***)?

US-Canada, that's who.

You don't know what you're talking about, not by a long shot.

I tried to comment two days ago and got a reject slip because of questionable content... don't know why.

I have a 36 mile drive to work. I'd love nothing more than to drive to work, plug in, drive home, plug in, repeat as necessary... a plug-in Tesla would be wonderful.
But I have questions-
How is any electric gonna operate when it's 15 degrees outside? And at the temperature extremes, how will heat/air conditioning work? At night, headlights/wipers/radio all consuming, will I find myself out of juice, walking the last 3 miles to work?

It seems to me we're going to need to go the hybrid route for some time to come, particularly in the colder parts of the country. How long before battery technology will give us a practical all-electric vehicle?

The USA leads the entire world in one aspect..Lawyers. Tort law makes every US manufactured product, cost prohibitive. India and China are fast rising world leaders due to the fact that their leaders are Scientists and Engineers NOT legalists. Look at our candidates for government. Count the number of Lawyers in relation to the number of Scientists and Engineers. The GM Corvair, If it had not been a victim of Tort, today we may have had many such of the type? Tata $2500 India, USA add on legalistics, $7000?

> The USA leads the entire world in one aspect..Lawyers. Tort law makes every US manufactured product, cost prohibitive.

LOL. The American populace, with its high expectations, is what makes any USA manufactured item cost prohibitive.

Ca. 1992, the businesses of Boca Raton, FL, were shipping in people from Miami, 30-odd minutes away, in order to get people to work at McD's -- FOR $10 an HOUR (at that time, almost double minimum). Because they couldn't find **any** teens in Boca (an admittedly affluent area) willing to work there **for double minimum wage**.

Americans won't work for cheap rates, call that good or bad, and it's the chief reason manufacturing (at least until robots start becoming as much a central part of the process as mechanization is of agriculture) won't fly in the USA.

Further, Americans have higher expectations for our products. We expect to live long lives, so lead paint matters. Asbestos matters. So we have a lot of overhead for protecting us from such short-cuts.

And we expect our purchases to work flawless right out of the box -- we aren't willing to open the garage and work on our "new" Tata to fix some small factory screwup that would not happen in a car costing twice as much. We want to get in it, turn it on, and drive.

Tort law is only a ridiculously tiny part of the cost of goods production here in the USA.

Beautiful post. Your last line is a gem. I know one of these days I'll have to trade in my Chevy Metro, but not too soon, I hope.

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